Howard Griswold Conference Call—Thursday, June 7, 2011

Howard Griswold Conference Call—Thursday, June 7, 2011 Partial

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Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd )


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Howard needs information on how to write a complaint for breach of the trust.

Hit the libraries!





[Dave] Well, in the words of the immortal Ed McMahon, heeeeer’s Howard.

[Howard] Ok, yeah, let me take it over because I got something here that’s a couple pages long that I want to go over. I want you to know that I appreciate people that do things like this because this is what I do. When I find something in my research I back it up by telling you what statute number you can find it at, what court case you can find it at and what the cite is of the court case and I have always done this. There are hundreds of leaders, speakers there, what ever the hell you want to call them out here that put out all kinds of information claim they’re absolutely right just like all these religions that have different bibles that all claim their bible is the only one that’s true. I love that about these religions. But some of these speakers are the same way and they put nothing there to back up what they say. This gentleman, I don’t know who he is, never heard of him before. There are some Kennedy’s around that we’re familiar with but this is a Bill Kennedy and I’ve never heard of him before, don’t know who he is, but I certainly appreciate what he’s put together. He has given us a list starting with some of the early history of this country and leading into more modern history and mixing it all up showing the breach of the trust that has been going on since 1789. This breach of trust isn’t something new. This government has been corrupted from its beginning by corrupt people who have not done what the original intention of our founding fathers in their writing of the Constitution intended to happen. If they didn’t follow the original intention and purpose of what was set up then they have breached the public trust. This fellow gives us a whole lot of specific information, court cites, statutory cites, all dictionary definitions, all kinds of references, to different specific things that have occurred in the history of this country. He starts out, and everybody has a tendency to do this, pick on the IRS because nobody seems to like the IRS. He says the IRS is not a US government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. See Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al CUD93 405(e) [eje] and public law number 94-564, Senate Report 941148 at page 5967—Reorganization Plan Number 26, Public Law Number 102 read through 391. The IMF is an agency of the UN. See Blacks Law Dictionary 6th edition, page 618. The US has not had a treasury since 1921. See 41 Statutes-at-Large, Chapter 214, page 654. See what I mean, it gives you cites to go back up everything that he says. I have told you that there is no US Treasury, that the US Treasury today is the Federal Reserve Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank is owned and controlled by the IMF. I’ve told you that. If you didn’t believe me here’s a place where you can go. I didn’t find 41 Statutes, Chapter 214, page 654 to back that up. I found other references… But that’s alright. He backed it up with another reference. He goes on to say, ‘the US Treasury is now the IMF. That’s Presidential Document, Volume 29, number 4, page 113 and 22 United States Code, Section 285 and 288. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer the United States and there are no more reorganizations. Well, yeah, after over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy it is finally over and they have been operating since the beginning under bankruptcy. The government never had enough money to pay its bills. It was declared in 1931 unilaterally at the Hague Convention with all the other major nations of the world that the United States was bankrupt but it was also covered by executive order 12803. Do not personate one of the creditors or shareholders or you will be imprisoned, Title 18, United States Code, Section 914. Now, that’s a bunch of rhetoric and bull crap that they put out by a bunch of speakers and leaders around this country that we are the creditors of the United States. The fact is, we are not the creditors of the United States. The IMF is the creditor of the United States and has absorbed the United States. Anyway, the SEC, CIA, FBI, NASA, and all the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government even though the US government holds shares of the stock in some of these various agencies, corporations. See United States v. Strang at 254 US 491. 254 US is a very old case. So this goes back in the history of this country a long ways to show that most of these agencies are privately owned corporations. They are not actually government. They’re doing a government job for the government but they’re privately owned. The second reference after US v. Strang is Lewis v. US, 680 F2d, pg 1239. He jumps all over the place here with these different references so some of this stuff is old, some of the stuff is new, some it’s along the history of the United States from beginning to end. The end is right in front of us. But anyway, Social Security numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. {I M Fonged???} The application for social security number is the SS-5 form. The Department of the Treasury which is the IMF issues the SS-5, not the social security administration. They just pass it on to you. The new SS-5 forms do not state who or what publishes them. The earlier SS-5 forms did state that they are from the Department of the Treasury forms. They don’t state that anymore. You can get a copy of the SS-5 you filed by sending form SSA-L 996 to the Social Security Administration and that’s covered by 20CFR, Chapter 111, Subpart B422.103 (b)(2)(2). There are no judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. See how he jumps all over the place. And if you go back and read the judicial act of 1789 you will find out that all the courts were established as internal administrative courts for the government. They are not judicial courts at all, they’re administrative courts. And this is part of what Mr. (Ralph) Winterowd has uncovered and that they have no administrative authority because they haven’t done what they’re supposed to, to be able to implement the regulations to administer the statutes in their administrative courts. Interesting little mess we live in here in America. Anyway, next he says, judges do not enforce statutes and codes. Judges are executive administrators enforcing the statutes and codes for the benefit of the government. He says, see FRC v. GE, 281 US pg. 464 and Keller v. TE – I have no idea what TE is because I haven’t looked this case up. But Keller v. TE 261 US 428 and see 1 Statutes-at-large, Section 138 to 178. There have not been any judges in America since 1789. They have just been administrators. See FRC v. GE at 281 US 464 and Keller v. TE, 261 US 428 and 1 Statutes of Congress at Large at 138 through 178, again. So he repeated what he proved both things that judges don’t enforce law, they only enforce the Codes for the benefit of government and that there haven’t been any judges in America. Both are covered by those two cases. He goes on to say, according to the GATT you must have a social security number, House Report 103-826. Now, this not only hasn’t been known but hasn’t been addressed by anybody. The same question is presently being addressed in Barack Obama’s health care bill which requires everybody to have health care and in several courts already it has been declared to be unconstitutional because they cannot force people to get into a contract. Well, Social Security is a forced agreement whether you call it a contract or not if they want to get real specific about it, it really isn’t a contract. It is an agreement which is similar and has the same enforceable purpose and principle as a contract but it might just be called an agreement. But anyway, they are forcing you to make an agreement to be a party to social security and it said you must—that would be unconstitutional. He goes on to say, we have a one-world government, one-world law and one-world monetary system {sounds downright Khazarian, doesn’t it?}. The UN is a one-world super government. It’s already running this country and it has been since 1945, by the way {set up by the Communists}. Most people are unaware of that. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a slave colony and it has been throughout all of the different Babylonian empires right up to this United States empire which is the 7th and final Babylonian empire according to the Bible. There has always been a one-world government. It is just now that it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations. New York City is defined in the federal regulations as the United Nations. It’s the capital of the world. Ralph Gilanthe stated on C-Span that New York City was the capital of the world and he was correct. See 20 CFR chapter 111, part B, 422.103, Subsection B, part (2). Social Security is not an insurance or a contract nor is there a trust fund. See Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619 and Stuart Machine Company v. Davis 301 US 548. I have brought those cases up in the past and talked about them. Your social security check comes directly from the IMF which is an agency of the UN. Look at, if you receive one, it should have written on the top left, United States Treasury but it doesn’t. It doesn’t anymore, anyway. You own no property in America and, as a matter of fact, in any other countries of the world nobody owns property because everybody is in a state of enslavement due to this money system and slaves cannot own property. Read the deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a tenant and that is documented by Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress, first session that no one will own property. Everyone will be a tenant on the government’s controlled property. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but strangely enough it is the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. See 42 Pennsylvania Codes, Statutes annotated, Section 502. Then he jumps around again. He says the Revolutionary War was a fraud. See, 22, 23 and 24 and I’m not sure of what because he doesn’t say but I think he picks it up later. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary War. The Treaty of Versailles, July 16th, 1782 and the Treaty of Peace, 8 Statutes-at-large, Page 80. If you look these things up and read them you’ll verify what he’s saying because I have looked at the Treaty of Peace and the Treaty of Versailles and sure enough, the United States is not an independent country. It is an agency of the British Crown. You cannot use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not party to it, Paddleford Fry and Company v. the mayor and aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438 at 520. I’ve looked that case up and read it years ago and that’s one of the reasons why I have told people for years that the Constitution does not apply to the people of America. It only applies to the government. America is under those treaties, a British Colony. The United States is a corporation, not the land mass as most stupid people with an education here in America actually believe that we live on a land mass called the United States. And it existed before the Revolutionary War and it did. The name was changed from the Virginia Company to another name to another name and then to the United States. That was all done before the Revolutionary War. And the British troops did not leave until 1796 until certain arrangements were made between the British king and the leaders of this new corporation called the United States. Now, if you read carefully what the Treaty of Peace said everything that the United States owned and held was, in fact, under the control of the British Crown. That was the corporation and what it owned and held, not the private people and their private land in America but our private land and our people have all been commercially registered through these birth certificate and land deed registrations and now that is all in the hands of the United States and its counterpart subsidiary state governments. And it’s now become totally under British control. That’s the fault of the stupidity of American people because they have an education and no knowledge. But to back that up he says, receive republica v. sweers 1 Dallas 43. That’s US Reports but it’s the early US Reports and they were under the names of lawyers who wrote the reports. So it’s actually Book 1, United States Reports, page 43. Treaty of Commerce, 8 Statutes of Congress at large, page 116. The Society for Propagating the Gospel v. New Haven 8 Wheat. That was another US Reports. It’s book number 8 of the US Reports, 8 Wheat 464 and the Treaty of Peace at 8 Statutes of Congress at Large, pg 80. IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association, October 20th, 1774: Britain is owned by the Vatican, Treaty of 1213.

See, what he’s tying this all together with different documents that bring the pieces together to show you that there is no freedom anywhere in the world. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States, Elements of Ecclesiastical Law, volume 1, at page 53 and 54. A 1040 form is a tribute paid to Britain, IRS Publication 6209. The Pope claims to own the entire planet thus the law of conquest and discovery from the Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people—Papal Bulls again, 1455 and 1493. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone. {anybody for a spot of tyranny?} I don’t where to find this, DENED.SIV…., 1843 Syllabus Prop 28, 29 and 44. So I think that’s where he picked up that other reference before. I like that name—Bull. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing, not even what we think are our own children. How many times have I talked about this? The birth certificate gave the rights to the property and your child to the government. He gives cites to prove it. Hillman v. Roberts 108 Southern Reporter, page 62. Van Keaton v. Van Keaton, 154 NE Rptr., page 146. Senate document 43 of the 73rd Congress, 1st Session and Weinameyer v. People 13 NY Reports, page 376 to 481. Military Director George Washington divided the states (estates) into districts. Messages and Papers of the Presidents of the United States, Volume 1, Page 99 and Webster’s Dictionary, 1828 edition, put the definition of the word, estate. The people does not include you and I. I’ve told you this time and time again and I’ve made this reference, Barron v. the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore, 32 US Reports, page 243. The United States Constitution applies to the government that it created. So We the People of the United States in the Preamble to the Constitution did not include the people of America. It included only the people of the corporation known as the United States. The reason we don’t understand this and think that we’re the people is because we’re not taught to read. We’re just taught to pronounce words. We the People of the United States is the people of the corporation called the United States and has nothing to do with the American people, Barron v. the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore very specifically pointed that out all the way back in 1833—I think that case was. The United States government was not founded upon Christianity. Look at the Treaty of Tripoli, 8 Statutes at Large, page 154 although there’s a whole lot of people that believe that. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the corporation and arrest code breakers because the courts only enforce codes because they’re administrators and they administer the codes. See SAPP v. Tallahassee 348 Southern Reporter 2nd, page 363. Reiff v. the City of Philadelphia 477 F Supp. Pg 1262 and Lynch v. North Carolina Department of Justice 376 SE Rptr 2nd ed., pg. 247. Everything in the United States is for sale, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons, airports, etc. I wonder who bought Klamath Lake. Did anyone take the time to check executive order 12803? We are human capital {to the Khazars, cattle}. I brought this up many a time. This is executive order 13037. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over fifty years and now owns every man, woman and child in America because they all have a birth certificate recorded and are property of this corporation called the United States which is owned, controlled and operated completely by the IMF {I M Fonged} today. The UN also holds all the land in America in fee simple so you and I can’t own any land. The good news is that we don’t have to fulfill our fictitious obligations. You can discharge fictitious obligations with another fictitious obligation. Well, I’m not sure that he’s 100% correct there and he doesn’t back that up with any law but there is a way that you can overcome these fictitious obligations and offset the obligation by transferring it back to them through an assignment and the law provides for that. It does not provide for a lot of this garbage information that is around the patriot community such as Accepted for Value or any of this other foolishness. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies –the United States is a corporation so it’s nothing but a company—were making loans to others all over the world during the depression. The building of Germany’s infrastructure in the 1930s including the railroads were financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves kings, prime ministers and other leadership names etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people.

Think of all the American, Germans, French, Italians and Chinese—very country’s involved in this—who gave their lives thinking they were defending their countries which didn’t even exist. Their countries are nothing but corporations and all they’re defending is our poor boys—they’re over in the Middle East, right now—are defending the interests of these corporations, not this country—they don’t know it. The millions of innocent people who died in all these wars did it for nothing but the benefit of these corporations. Isn’t it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in any of these fiascos? That is where the BIS, Bank of International Settlements, is located. Wars are manufactured to keep your eyes off of the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of government in place. The United States did not declare independence from Great Britain or the king. Guess who owns the UN. The king owns it under the control of the Vatican or the queen or whoever’s in power at the present time and actually not really because it’s the parliament which is their corporation. Suggest that you look all these things up and verify it for yourself. I suggest we do the same thing. I have several of these things already looked up. There are a couple things there that he’s brought up that I have not found or looked up and I will be looking them up because I will be putting them in with the information to go along with suing any and every government official involved in any type of perversion of the right of property and the rights of liberty of the American people as a breach of the public trust. This is the kind of stuff that we need to show that they have breached the public trust, that they are conspirators and every moron in government today that isn’t part of what was done in 1789 or 1933 because those people are all dead and gone but if they’re still executing it they’re co-conspirators—they’ve stepped into the conspiracy to defraud the American people and to breach the public trust. This was not a happy session tonight but it certainly was revealing, wasn’t it? It shows you that this country is a farce. We are not free people. We never were free people. We have always been under the auspicious of some governmental control of our lives and our property. There is no real freedom in America. That whole scheme of freedom has been nothing but a farce. It certainly worked better than the Russian government who admitted honestly to its people that they owned everything, the people owned nothing. So in Russia the people didn’t care about the houses they lived in or the land that they lived on. They didn’t take care of it. They didn’t maintain it. It wasn’t theirs; they had no reason to do that. Here in America we’ve been buffaloed into believing that we own it so we take very good care of it, maintain everything and keep it up real well and make it all nice looking. We have a very nice looking country with a bunch of cheap junk products that we manufacture here in this country and I’m telling you… I got a feeling that as soon as the Chinese take over one of these states and start moving their people in here and buying the trash we manufacture and sell they’ll go back to China and be glad to leave. China for themselves make good products. They make trash and send it over here to America because that’s all we want on the market is our own manufactured trash or imported manufactured trash. Junk products is about all we have. Nothing of qualified is left in America, not even the people. There is no quality left in the people. There is no morality left in the people. They deserve what they’re getting and they’re getting things like leaders like Mr. Weiner. I can’t help but to laugh every time I say that name. But anyway that kind of leadership and Barack Obama and his campaign to turn this into a social state, that kind of leadership is the total corruption that probably had to be brought about to wake up a few of the American people. Remember, there was a very interesting story in the Bible. One of them was the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and God destroyed it and we are definitely living in a Sodom and Gomorrah today. So God’s going to handle taking care of this. I think He’s working on it a little bit, right now, giving some warnings with all these disasters and severe changes in the weather but there will be a lot more coming, a whole lot more coming. There will be destruction of everything that we are accustomed to and familiar with and it will happen very quickly and shortly in front of us. This not something that isn’t going to happen in your life time unless you die today. If you don’t want to see it die now. 02:19:13.285

[Steve] Howard, Steve from Colorado. I got a breach of fiduciary duty.

[Howard] Yeah, you said something about a fiduciary duty. Who has a fiduciary duty?

[Steve] The form for… It’s in a form with boiler plate and it’s titled Complaint for Breach of Fiduciary Duty.

[Howard] That’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. Please send that to Gemini Investments for me. Thank you, sir.

[Steve] You’re welcome.

[Howard] Very good. These things are around they’re just well hidden and hard as hell to find but if you look in the right place they will come up. It’s just a matter of looking in the right place and for some reason I haven’t looked in the right place yet, I guess.

[Steve] This came from University of Denver Law School.

[Howard] Ok, interesting. I wouldn’t have gone there to look for it in the first place. I don’t live anywhere near there but great.

[Steve] No, of course not. You wanted it and I told you I’d look for it so we got her.

[Howard] Good. Thank you, thank you, thank you. A lot of people are going to be very thankful on knowing how to put it together.

[Steve] And there’s a whole bunch of court cases in with that book. Did you want those too?

[Howard] Yes, sir—anything that backs it up. The more we can learn by reading those kinds of things and realizing how this is supposed to be done, how it applies, the better off we’re going to be.

[Steve] It might take a day or two but this document is going to be in the mail for you tomorrow.

[Howard] Ok, very good, thank you.

[Steve] You’re welcome and thanks for the work you do.

[Howard] Oh, I’m just here because God put me here to do this. Thank God, don’t thank me. I am a slave but not to this system—to our Creator. I don’t mind that slavery. Alright, thank you all. Good night.









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